Friday, February 12, 2010

Antony Flew responds to Richard Dawkin's critique

Flew: atheist become theist
Dawkins: critic of his hero's theism

Flew spoke at Biola University when he received the "Philip E. Johnson Award for Liberty and Truth"  Dawkins said he was used.  Flew writes:

"Finally, as to the suggestion that I have been used by Biola University: If the way I was welcomed by the students and the members of the faculty whom I met on my short stay in Biola amounted to being used, then I can only express my regret that at my age of eighty-five I cannot reasonably hope for another visit to this institution."

A little common ground with atheists

Maybe Van Til wasn't so great after all . . . Hitchens is interviewed by Sewell, a Unitarian minister.  (On her own blog she complains that Hitchens drinks too much, and became acerbic because of it.)


Maryiln Sewell: The religion you cite in your book is generally the fundamentalist faith of various kinds. I’m a liberal Christian, and I don’t take the stories from the scripture literally. I don’t believe in the doctrine of atonement (that Jesus died for our sins, for example). Do you make and [sic] distinction between fundamentalist faith and liberal religion? Christopher Hitchens: I would say that if you don’t believe that Jesus of Nazareth was the Christ and Messiah, and that he rose again from the dead and by his sacrifice our sins are forgiven, you’re really not in any meaningful sense a Christian.  






Atheists love this quote as much as Christians. 

Thursday, February 4, 2010

Trouble at Coral Ridge

If you're not aware of the troubles at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, I won't tell you, because I don't want to ruin your day.

But let's look at what has gone wrong:

Rev. Tullian Tchividian (did I spell that right?) takes to Christianity Today to defend himself.  I can't help but notice Tullian's Christ-like willingness to forgive.  But no sense of any willingness to ask for forgiveness.

One group has formed a faction, and taken that faction on to plant a new church.  Do people not realize that factions and divisions are reckoned by the Bible in the same category as orgies and witchcraft?
Galatians 5:19-21  Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,  20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,  21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.  


When we hear that a group of the church - including the late Dr. Kennedy's daughter - formed a breakaway group, we ought to hear that as if they had protested Tullian's new call by having a drunken orgy.  Outrageous!  Scripture says, "People like you will not go to heaven - you will not inherit the kingdom of God."

I am far from impressed with Rev. Tchividian.  He is slick, he courts the press, and he seems to have packages the "unpackaged" motif.  He's accidentally cool, and should be far more willing to, say, wear a robe because the people want him to wear a robe.  Submit in love, Tullian!  And stop broadcasting your humility all over Christianity Today, the mag grandpa Billy started.

But that still doesn't excuse people for divining Coral Ridge's future by slaughtering a sheep and reading its liver strife, rivalries, dissensions, and divisions.  I mean, we are talking about two separate congregations with the exact same doctrine.  If they can split over admitted non-essentials, what hope is there?

This could have been handled so many ways but this.

Thursday, October 1, 2009

My response to 9 marks and mentally retarded adults

The 9 marks blog has some insane comment policy, so this will probably never show up.

Response to this.

We have this same issue at our church with an 18 year old.  Here's how we figure it:

No Jewish family ever had a baby whom they thought was a Philistine.  Jewish families had Jewish kids.  Sometimes those kids grew up to be Baal worshippers, and proved that they were not faithful Jews after all.  But we don't admit only the elect to the visible church, because we don't know who's elect.  We do our best at making a decision.

If it is impossible to know, as in this man's case, exhort the family to raise him and train him in the fear and admonition of the Lord.  Remind them that the Word of God does not come back void, even in the case of the disabled, and that Jesus loves the little children (e.g. those who don't have the ability to speak like adults).  Then admit him to full membership, sing with him, read him the Scriptures, and if he should ever need it, bring him under church discipline.

You wrote, "We're not saying he is not a Christian; we're simply saying it is nearly impossible for us (the church) to discern."

That's actually true for everyone.  Seemingly faithful brothers have left their wives and the faith.  Why did we let them be pastors and elders and Sunday school teachers?  Because it is ALWAYS impossible to discern with CERTAINTY.  We're ALWAYS just doing our best.  Sometimes that's easy, and sometimes that's hard.  But it's better to, with the best of intentions, allow an unbeliever to the discipline and sacraments of the church then to keep a true Christian away from the font and the table forever.  It would be better to go swimming with a millstone around your neck.

Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Gore Vidal on American Education

Link
Does anyone care what Americans think? They're the worst-educated people in the First World. They don't have any thoughts, they have emotional responses, which good advertisers know how to provoke.

How critical it is to raise a generation of people who know how to think, not just how to feel.

Monday, September 14, 2009

False teachers?

I've been going back and forth a bit with my friend Brenden on his blog.

At issue is "what is a false teacher?" Is a false teacher easy to recognize? How should the term be used?

Thus far, here's me, then him, then me.

  1. J.Kru

    Hey Brenden – just found your blog. And I thought it was just a Facebook thing.

    I recognized the phrase “false teacher” – it shows up in the second Helvetic confession ch. 18.

    “For, if they be false teachers, they are not to be tolerated at all.”

    And of course 2 Peter 2:1 says, “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.”

    It seems that your description of “false teachers” is a little softer than either the 2Helvitic or the Bible. Are you using “False Teachers” in a different sense?


  2. Jarid – Yeah, that’s a good question. I think I may have been using a different sense. My intention was more to bring out the ‘hypothetical’ false teacher and identify him via certain strains of ‘false teaching’ more specifically. False teaching rarely is conspicuously apparent, but rather veils itself through sophisticated reasoning and wordplay. Mine was an attempt to unveil the spirit of the age by identifying some of its underlying motivations.

    Your criticism is quite well-founded. However, my question then would be: if he’s dong false teaching, when does he become a ‘false teacher’? Thanks for the comment. We should catch up sometime soon.


  3. Well, there’s a sense in which the identification of false teachers is the work of the church, not the individual. It’s not a complete sense, i.e. we should be able to discern truth from error, but it’s there.

    I would say that someone is a false teacher as soon as they start teaching what it certainly false.

    It’s the evaluation of the falsehood that is the trouble.

    I’m not sure that false teaching is quite so veiled. For example, is Baptist sacrementology false teaching? I believe it is, in fact, in error, but it’s not “false teaching.” Every theological is a matter of error or not-error, but that doesn’t mean that either all Baptists or all Presbyterians are false teachers.

    False teaching is a statement that salvation is not by faith but by circumcision. Arianism, Docetism, Sabellianism, or Pelagianism are all false teachings. JW’s and Mormons are false teachers.

    It seems from Scripture and the Reformed confessions that a “false teacher” is someone outside of salvation, an damnable heretic who is, apart from heartfelt repentance, going to go to hell, and all who follow him shall go with him.

    They often attempt to be sophisticated in the description, but the error is plainly seen.

    What caught my attention was the word “emphasis,” which certainly apply to #s 1-4, and maybe 5. I remembered John Frame’s essay “evaluating theological writings.” He mentions 3 unsound criteria for theological evaluation, the first one being “emphasis.” He writes, “In this kind of criticism, one theologian attacks another for having an improper ‘emphasis.’ But there is no such thing as a single normative emphasis. An emphasis becomes a problem only when it leads to other sorts of problems.” (John Frame, _The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God_, P&R Publishing, 1987), p. 370. He refers in this section to chapter 6, where he discusses problems of evaluating “emphasis” – a. Emphasis is a matter of degree. Exactly how much has to be done before a proper ‘emphasis’ has been achieved? b. Scripture has a “central message,” but valuable theological work can be done in areas that are distantly related to this central message. For example, the veiling of women in 1 Cor 11 is not illegitimate because it is pays little attention the Scripture’s central message. c. Theology cannot have precisely the same emphasis as Scripture, because it does more than simply repeat Scripture from Gen. to Rev. Theology exists to apply Scripture.

    Finally, he suggests that a problem of “emphasis” is better understood as either a problem of truth, clarity or cogency.” (182-183).

    There are a couple of points in Frame (just the above part) I’m not sure I agree with, but his final point is the best – instead of looking for the man’s emphasis, let’s look to see if he’s wrong, unclear, or unconvincing.

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Machen on the Meaning of Freedom, Gal. 1:3-7

The Christian does indeed live still in this world.  It is a travesty on this Pauline doctrine when it is held to mean that when he escapes, inwardly, from the present evil world by the redeeming work of Christ the Christian can calmly leave the world to its fate.  On the conrary, Christian men, even after they have been redeemed, are left in this world, and in this world they have an important duty to perform.

In the first place, they do not stand alone, but are united in the great brotherhood of the Christian Church.  Into that brotherhood it is their duty to invite other men by the preaching of the gospel; and they should pray that that preaching, through the supernatural operation of the Holy Spirit in the new birth, may be efficacious, and that the great brotherhood may expand yet more and more.

In the second place, Christians should by no means adopt a negative attitude toward art, government, science, literature, and the other achievements of mankind, but should consecrate these things to the service of God.  The separateness of the Christian from the world is not to be manifested, as so many seem to think that it should be manifested, by the presentation to God of only an impoverished man; but it is to be manifested by the presentation to God of all man's God-given powers developed to the full.  That is the higher Christain humanism, a humanism based not upon human pride but upon the solid foundation of the grace of God. 

But these considerations do not make any less radical the step of which Paul speaks.  It remains true that the Christian has escaped from this present age - from this present world with all its sin and all its pride.  The Christian continues to live in the world, but he lives in it as its master and not as its slave.  He can move the world because at last he has a place to stand.

J. Gresham Machen, Machen's Notes on Galatians, ed. John H. Skilton (Philadelphia: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company, 1972), 32-33.

Wednesday, June 3, 2009

The Real Cost of Television

A great little entry about TV from the Bayly Bros.


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No one ever looked at the PBS anchor and said, "I've got to get a blazer like that!"

Right in line with my current email tagline:

The U.S. has now proved beyond any doubt that it is not possible to maintain civilization in a country with commercial television. - Clyde N. Wilson

When Paul writes,
2 Corinthians 10:5 "We . . . take every thought captive to obey Christ,"

He doesn't mean in his own personal life, he means as he argues and debates. But it's tough to recognize the flesh when all you do is fill your head with manure.

Exodus from the Government Education Facility

http://afterthebasket.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/exodus/

The Year of Our Lord for Queer Folk

It just strikes me as funny that as our President declares that it's Gay-Lesbian-Trangendered-Bisexual Pride month,he can't help but include reference to Jesus, as he says,

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month. I call upon the people of the United States to turn back discrimination and prejudice everywhere it exists.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this first day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-third.

I'm sorry, the year of whose Lord? This one?
Colossians 1:9-10 And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.

Friday, May 22, 2009

Washington State's 1st Suicide

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — A 66-year-old woman who had stage 4 pancreatic cancer is the first person to die under Washington state's new assisted suicide law.

Linda Fleming of Sequim died Thursday night after taking drugs prescribed under the "Death with Dignity" law that took effect in March. Assisted suicide group Compassion & Choices of Washington announced Fleming's death Friday morning.

LINK

In Scripture, it is always and only the ungodly who take their own lives:

1 Samuel 31:4-6 4 Then Saul said to his armor-bearer, "Draw your sword, and thrust me through with it, lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and mistreat me." But his armor-bearer would not, for he feared greatly. Therefore Saul took his own sword and fell upon it. 5 And when his armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he also fell upon his sword and died with him. 6 Thus Saul died, and his three sons, and his armor-bearer, and all his men, on the same day together.

It's sad that we have come to the point in which suicide - the ultimate acts of despair and hatred - is now viewed as "compassionate," particularly with the sorts of pain management that is available today.

A fine sermon on the subject of the Assisted Suicide law here in Washington State - preached just before the vote - is available here.

Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Work and money

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. - Dr. Adrian Rogers

Dr. Rogers explains the natural results of disobedience to these commands:

Thessalonians 3: For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

Genesis 1: "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Indeed. When men set aside their God given obligation and right (yes, "right" in the sense that "it is something we should want to do") and think that somebody else will do all the work and then hand it over, neither nation nor family can survive.

Problems with the ESV?

A problem with the Reformed World's faaaaavorite Bible translation?

I think the ESV is a great translation. Neither my Hebrew nor my Greek are good enough to start offering critique of actual translation choices, other than to say that I understand the difference between formal equivalence, in which the text is translated word-for-word, and dynamic equivalence, in which the text is translated thought-for-thought. I think that missionaries should be using dynamic translations as they seek to win and inform non- and new Christians.

There are a few places where I would like to see the ESV retain the Authorized Version's word-for-word literal translation philosophy, or that of the NASB . . . see how the ESV takes the teeth out of Ezekiel's proclamation -

KJV - Ezekiel 16:25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

NASB - Ezekiel 16:25 "You built yourself a high place at the top of every street and made your beauty abominable, and you spread your legs to every passer-by to multiply your harlotry.

ESV Ezekiel 16:25 At the head of every street you built your lofty place and made your beauty an abomination, offering yourself to any passerby and multiplying your whoring.

How lame. The raw, crude offensiveness of the KJV and NASB are neutered by the ESV. But overall, I can't complain about the ESV.

I wouldn't complain about the ESV.

After all, I'm Reformed.

The Translation Oversight Committee consists of 9 men whom I know to be Reformed, particularly Packer, Collins, Grudem and Polythress. Some of the others may be as well. As for the Translation Review Scholars, I can't say.

But this I do know: this is the Reformed Translation of the Bible. Reformed and Calvinist churches love it, use it, reccomend it.

Now, again, I'm reformed, and I do the same thing. But it does worry me that now the Baptists have the Holman Christian Standard, and Calvinists have the ESV, and Rick Warren has The Message, etc.

We are so divided as Christ's One Holy Church that we now all have our individualized Bibles.

We've already done it with study notes and marketing. Women's Devotional Bible, Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible, Teen Study Bible, etc. etc. It was only a matter of time before we all started getting our own translations as well.

How long until we have nothing in common at all?

I love the ESV but sometimes I wish that we all still had nothing but the King James Version, and we would have to learn to make do, and we would all be happy with our Bibles in basic black.

Thursday, July 24, 2008

True and False Religion

It is one thing to attend church each week and quite another to want to go to church to encounter God in times of worship and teaching. It is one thing to simply sing hymns or worship songs and quite another to truly worship God with all our heart. It is one thing to pray before a meal or sit quietly when another person prays and quite another to earnestly seek God for direction, help, or comfort. It is on thing to simply read the Bible and quite another to seek to commune with God while studying Scripture.

-Karl Graustein, Growing Up Christian, p. 36-37.

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